Two days ago we sent our monthly newsletter including the article
“Should I hire a union or a non-union talent?". Unfortunately, the last paragraph of the article contained a phrase that we failed to write properly and we confused many of you. The phrase is:
“Most post-production work is not regulated by unions. As such, rates of post production work will always depend on the agreement you reach with the voice producer.”
This is what we actually meant:
“Some voice over talents can also do post production work themselves (like adding background music, special effects, etc) so that you save time and money. We call these talents ‘voice producers’. Most of this type of of post-production work is not regulated by unions. As such, rates of post production work will always depend on the agreement you reach with the voice producer.”
Where is the confusion? Some people understood that after the recording is done and you do post-production, unions would not ask you -the voice seeker- to pay additional fees. This is usually called "buyout". That is not what we meant. Unions, in fact, commonly have fee structures where you pay depending on the usage and distribution of the produced audio after the recording has been done.
Please accept our apologies for the misunderstanding.
PS. Many voice seekers like you asked us for an updated rate guide for non-union work after they read this article. During the next few days we will be sending a price survey to our non-union talent database (more than 40,000 talents). In our next newsletter we will publish the updated Non-Union Work Rate Guide.
The Voice123 team blog for our community of talents and voice seekers.
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
Monday, April 23, 2007
Should I hire a union or a non-union talent?
The voice market has two distinctive types of providers: Voice talents that are members of the unions (union talents), and voice talents that are not part of the unions (non-union talents).
Non-union talents rates tend to be the most affordable ones. Rates vary a lot as there is no market regulation. It all depends on the agreement you reach with the voice talent or voice producer. When you post a project on Voice123, non-union talents will give you quotes of their rates, along with demos of their work.
Union talents charge union rates. Although the rates depend on the union to which the talent is affiliated (SAG, AFTRA, etc.) they all tend to be similar. Union rates are usually more expensive than non-union rates.
"There are some talents that charge rates well over any union or non-union standard. This is usually the case of celebrity-talents. These well-paid talents are likely to be union talents. People is willing to pay more for them because their voices are widely popular.
Some voice over talents can also do post production work themselves (like adding background music, special effects, etc) so that you save time and money. We call these talents ‘voice producers’. Most of this type of of post-production work is not regulated by unions. As such, rates of post production work will always depend on the agreement you reach with the voice producer. When you post a project on Voice123 for post-production work, voice producers will give you quotes of their rates along, with demos of their work.
Non-union talents rates tend to be the most affordable ones. Rates vary a lot as there is no market regulation. It all depends on the agreement you reach with the voice talent or voice producer. When you post a project on Voice123, non-union talents will give you quotes of their rates, along with demos of their work.
Union talents charge union rates. Although the rates depend on the union to which the talent is affiliated (SAG, AFTRA, etc.) they all tend to be similar. Union rates are usually more expensive than non-union rates.
"There are some talents that charge rates well over any union or non-union standard. This is usually the case of celebrity-talents. These well-paid talents are likely to be union talents. People is willing to pay more for them because their voices are widely popular.
Some voice over talents can also do post production work themselves (like adding background music, special effects, etc) so that you save time and money. We call these talents ‘voice producers’. Most of this type of of post-production work is not regulated by unions. As such, rates of post production work will always depend on the agreement you reach with the voice producer. When you post a project on Voice123 for post-production work, voice producers will give you quotes of their rates along, with demos of their work.
Check Out These Great Topics On The Voice Over Savvy Forum
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been continually growing and has now become one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for Voice Over talents.
At this time, more than 1,200 topics, as well as more than 15,000 posts can be found in the forum, bringing unsurpassed amounts of information related to all aspects of the industry.
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been continually growing and has now become one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for voice over talents and voice producers. At this time, more than 1,200 topics, as well as more than 15,000 posts can be found, bringing information related to all aspects of the industry.
See you there.
What's HOT in the Voice Over Market today?
“Style, Attitude and Feeling is what I most often hear as being the key items that most clients seek in a Voice Over Talent...”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1382.html
The Reasons For What We Do
"Generally the person doing the hiring will either have a "voice in their head" that they are waiting to hear to hire or are waiting to hear something to trigger the hiring desire..."
- Read more and comment at
httphttp://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1327.html
DLF on Tonight show
“For anyone who didn't catch this.....it is really funny! The Don doing a brief stint on the tonight show with Haley from American Idol.....”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1456.html
At this time, more than 1,200 topics, as well as more than 15,000 posts can be found in the forum, bringing unsurpassed amounts of information related to all aspects of the industry.
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been continually growing and has now become one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for voice over talents and voice producers. At this time, more than 1,200 topics, as well as more than 15,000 posts can be found, bringing information related to all aspects of the industry.
See you there.
What's HOT in the Voice Over Market today?
“Style, Attitude and Feeling is what I most often hear as being the key items that most clients seek in a Voice Over Talent...”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1382.html
The Reasons For What We Do
"Generally the person doing the hiring will either have a "voice in their head" that they are waiting to hear to hire or are waiting to hear something to trigger the hiring desire..."
- Read more and comment at
httphttp://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1327.html
DLF on Tonight show
“For anyone who didn't catch this.....it is really funny! The Don doing a brief stint on the tonight show with Haley from American Idol.....”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1456.html
Monday, April 16, 2007
Check Out These Great Topics On The Voice Over Savvy Forum
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been constantly growing to be one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for Voice Over talents. At this time, more than 1,200 topics, as well as more than 15,000 posts can be found in the forum, bringing unsurpassed amounts information related to all aspects of the industry.
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been constantly growing to be one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for Voice Over talents and voice producers. At this time more than 1200 topics as well as more than 15000 posts can be found, bringing information related to all aspects of the industry.
See you there.
Music in Your Productions
"Emmy-award winning composer, producer, music supervisor and songwriter, shared with us his experience when creating and adding Music in Your Productions..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1278.html
Need a good processor
"They're okay, but I'm not overly thrilled with them. At my home studio...where "I" control what's purchased and installed, I use the dbx286a..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic506.html
Mic Backstop
"It's a scrap piece if Auralex that I jabbed a hole through with my Swiss army knife and hung on my boom..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic675.html
ProTools Edit problem
"Damned good thing I have a fine lady who can figure this stuff out. (I'm the TALENT fer cryin' out loud!)..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1230.html
New arrival!
"Greetings all! I am pleased to announce my new arrival. At 1 lb, 14 oz and 8 inches in length..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1240.html
The Voice Over Savvy Forum has been constantly growing to be one of the largest and most important communities and gathering places for Voice Over talents and voice producers. At this time more than 1200 topics as well as more than 15000 posts can be found, bringing information related to all aspects of the industry.
See you there.
Music in Your Productions
"Emmy-award winning composer, producer, music supervisor and songwriter, shared with us his experience when creating and adding Music in Your Productions..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1278.html
Need a good processor
"They're okay, but I'm not overly thrilled with them. At my home studio...where "I" control what's purchased and installed, I use the dbx286a..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic506.html
Mic Backstop
"It's a scrap piece if Auralex that I jabbed a hole through with my Swiss army knife and hung on my boom..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic675.html
ProTools Edit problem
"Damned good thing I have a fine lady who can figure this stuff out. (I'm the TALENT fer cryin' out loud!)..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1230.html
New arrival!
"Greetings all! I am pleased to announce my new arrival. At 1 lb, 14 oz and 8 inches in length..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1240.html
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Las Vegas VOICE 2007 Recap,
by Alex Torrenegra.
VOICE 2007, the first conference dedicated to voice overs, was a huge success. Although this was the first event of its kind, it worked out extremely well. VOICE 2007 provided a venue for talents to learn, network, and have fun. Even Don LaFontaine was there!
The conference was, above all, about learning. Never before have I seen so many reputable voice over coaches in one room. The quality of the presentations was great. Of all the conferences I’ve attended, at Voice 2007 I saw more people engaged in the learning process. The reason? Great topics and great presenters. Topics ranged from the psychology behind reading scripts to building your own web site. Attendees even learned strategies to closing deals with potential clients.
Networking was very important as well at VOICE 2007. Many got to meet people face to face after years of having worked together over the phone. Many others were able to find new colleagues. There were, after all, more than 200 talents in attendance! Talents were also able to talk to key members of organizations like AFTRA and, of course, Voice123. Many tough questions were asked. Oh boy! Tell me about it! Yet, I was very intrigued while listening to rich and complex queries about the industry.
VOICE 2007 was also about having fun. I saw people laughing and smiling more than at any previous conference I’ve attended! Attendees had the chance to be in sessions hosted by voice over royalty, Don LaFontaine (3,000 movie trailers to his credit) and Bob Bergen (voice of Porky Pig and Tweety). The entire conference was full of memorable moments, so many that talents cried as the event came to an end.
Throughout all the sharing, learning, laughter, and tears, there was one bad thing that happened: the cigarette smoke in the casino. Although the conference rooms were smoke free, just crossing the casino to get to them was uncomfortable to many, either because they take great care of their voice, or because –as it is my case- they are used to living in smoke free environments like New York. The next VOICE event will be held in a different state, so this shouldn’t be an issue.
In summary, VOICE 2007 is an event that I would highly recommend to any voice over talent that can afford it. Thank you Frank, James, Penny, and all the other organizers, and thank you to all of the voice over talents that attended the event. You believed in a dream and it became a reality, better than expected. I am already looking forward to attending VOICE 2008!
If you want to learn more about VOICE 2007, here is a great recap written by Debbie Munro:
http://voiceoversavvy.com/sutra15396.html&highlight=#15396
If you want to get a feeling of how fun it was, read this thread started by Lynne Alston:
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1338-0-asc-0.html
The conference was, above all, about learning. Never before have I seen so many reputable voice over coaches in one room. The quality of the presentations was great. Of all the conferences I’ve attended, at Voice 2007 I saw more people engaged in the learning process. The reason? Great topics and great presenters. Topics ranged from the psychology behind reading scripts to building your own web site. Attendees even learned strategies to closing deals with potential clients.
Networking was very important as well at VOICE 2007. Many got to meet people face to face after years of having worked together over the phone. Many others were able to find new colleagues. There were, after all, more than 200 talents in attendance! Talents were also able to talk to key members of organizations like AFTRA and, of course, Voice123. Many tough questions were asked. Oh boy! Tell me about it! Yet, I was very intrigued while listening to rich and complex queries about the industry.
VOICE 2007 was also about having fun. I saw people laughing and smiling more than at any previous conference I’ve attended! Attendees had the chance to be in sessions hosted by voice over royalty, Don LaFontaine (3,000 movie trailers to his credit) and Bob Bergen (voice of Porky Pig and Tweety). The entire conference was full of memorable moments, so many that talents cried as the event came to an end.
Throughout all the sharing, learning, laughter, and tears, there was one bad thing that happened: the cigarette smoke in the casino. Although the conference rooms were smoke free, just crossing the casino to get to them was uncomfortable to many, either because they take great care of their voice, or because –as it is my case- they are used to living in smoke free environments like New York. The next VOICE event will be held in a different state, so this shouldn’t be an issue.
In summary, VOICE 2007 is an event that I would highly recommend to any voice over talent that can afford it. Thank you Frank, James, Penny, and all the other organizers, and thank you to all of the voice over talents that attended the event. You believed in a dream and it became a reality, better than expected. I am already looking forward to attending VOICE 2008!
If you want to learn more about VOICE 2007, here is a great recap written by Debbie Munro:
http://voiceoversavvy.com/sutra15396.html&highlight=#15396
If you want to get a feeling of how fun it was, read this thread started by Lynne Alston:
http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic1338-0-asc-0.html
Wednesday, March 21, 2007
I Hear Voices
your inside source for the voice industry and the Voice123 community
The Features of the Upcoming New Voice123 Have Been Announced!
In our last newsletter we told you that a New Voice123 is on its way. In this issue, you will learn about all of the new features that are part of it!
Click here to see the introductory video.
Don’t have time to see the video? Here is quick summary of the new features:
• A new online voice casting tool where you can invite your own talents to audition, select from a list of talents who you want to invite, and/ or let invite the best matching talents for your project.
• A new project creation system where you can limit the amount of auditions you get.
• A new messaging system to quickly connect you with the voices you want.
• An enhanced similar voices features
• And much more!
The New Voice123 will be released soon. Stay tuned!
View our online version .
In our last newsletter we told you that a New Voice123 is on its way. In this issue, you will learn about all of the new features that are part of it!
Click here to see the introductory video.
Don’t have time to see the video? Here is quick summary of the new features:
• A new online voice casting tool where you can invite your own talents to audition, select from a list of talents who you want to invite, and/ or let invite the best matching talents for your project.
• A new project creation system where you can limit the amount of auditions you get.
• A new messaging system to quickly connect you with the voices you want.
• An enhanced similar voices features
• And much more!
The New Voice123 will be released soon. Stay tuned!
View our online version .
Check Out Even More Great Topics at the Voice Over Savvy Forum
The amazing response and acceptance experienced by the Voice Over Savvy Forum has been overwhelming. Up to now there are close to 10,000 postings from our talents, voice producers, and voice seekers. Come on and join us in the VO sandbox.
The following are a few of the most interesting and fun topics and discussions on the Voice Over Savvy Forum. Check them out and enjoy:
How much do clients REALLY want acting?
“But more and more and more you see projects wanting a REAL voice. I think the days of the prototypical 'announcer' selling you something are fading and most advertisers are looking to be believable. That's one reason testimonials are so popular...”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1124
Imitate THIS!
"OK, a new concept here. I am going to post a famous voice over from "back in the day." I challenge all of you to give it your best shot to imitate it. Yes, it is from a MALE "announcer" but don't let that stop you if you are female..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=567
Voice123 Radio?
“With “Voice123 radio” you will be able to listen to the best music along with the best talent demos, info about the projects posted in Voice123 and generals about the industry....”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1061
The following are a few of the most interesting and fun topics and discussions on the Voice Over Savvy Forum. Check them out and enjoy:
How much do clients REALLY want acting?
“But more and more and more you see projects wanting a REAL voice. I think the days of the prototypical 'announcer' selling you something are fading and most advertisers are looking to be believable. That's one reason testimonials are so popular...”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1124
Imitate THIS!
"OK, a new concept here. I am going to post a famous voice over from "back in the day." I challenge all of you to give it your best shot to imitate it. Yes, it is from a MALE "announcer" but don't let that stop you if you are female..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=567
Voice123 Radio?
“With “Voice123 radio” you will be able to listen to the best music along with the best talent demos, info about the projects posted in Voice123 and generals about the industry....”
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1061
Tuesday, March 06, 2007
Check 1,2,3
The Voice123 newsletter for voice talents and voice producers
Features of the Upcoming New Voice123
At the end of 2002 we came up with the concept of Voice123. It’s been a success! Now, four years later, it’s time for a change… a big change that will revolutionize the voice industry once again. We will be packing many new features and improvements into one major release: The New Voice123. Some of the features will be:
* Voice123 SmartCast
* A new messaging system
* A new project management tool for voice seekers
* An unlimited amount of demos for premium subscribers, etc, etc.
Learn More! Click to See the Introductory Video
The New Voice123 will be released soon. Stay tuned!
View our online version.
At the end of 2002 we came up with the concept of Voice123. It’s been a success! Now, four years later, it’s time for a change… a big change that will revolutionize the voice industry once again. We will be packing many new features and improvements into one major release: The New Voice123. Some of the features will be:
* Voice123 SmartCast
* A new messaging system
* A new project management tool for voice seekers
* An unlimited amount of demos for premium subscribers, etc, etc.
Learn More! Click to See the Introductory Video
The New Voice123 will be released soon. Stay tuned!
View our online version.
Voice Over Savvy Forum, more than another on line community
The amazing response and acceptance experienced by the Voice Over Savvy Forum has been overwhelming. Up to now there are close to 10.000 postings from our talents and voice seekers. Come on and join us on the VO sandbox.
The following are a few of the most interesting and fun topics and discussions on the Voice Over Savvy Forum. Check them out and enjoy:
How many Agents?
"My goal is to get an agent in all the big markets. So, as I was driving home, I started wondering how many agents do other pros sign with? Right now I am with four. But I still want a few more..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=932
HELLLLLP MEEE PLEEEEZ!!!
"He says if I add the Platinum Version of the Soundblaster XFI, I won't need an interface...that I can plug my mic directly into my computer and go from there..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=980
What's your signal chain?
"OK, so with all the discussion of recording software and preamps lately, I thought we might look at the big picture: the entire signal chain. SO...Let's share. How does your voice get from your mouth to the computer screen? ..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=972
Any Rocket Scientists out there????
"I can all let you in on the mechanics of how the new system will work. By utilizing former employees of the Psychic Network, along with a Ouija board, chicken claw and a 1984 Farmers Almanac..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=922
And January´s Winner Is...
The winner for January's premium subscription raffle has been announced. Join us in congratulating the lucky talent. Remember, you can participate in the raffle by just being among the 50 talents placing the most postings on The Voice Over Savvy Forum. click here to find out more.
The following are a few of the most interesting and fun topics and discussions on the Voice Over Savvy Forum. Check them out and enjoy:
How many Agents?
"My goal is to get an agent in all the big markets. So, as I was driving home, I started wondering how many agents do other pros sign with? Right now I am with four. But I still want a few more..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=932
HELLLLLP MEEE PLEEEEZ!!!
"He says if I add the Platinum Version of the Soundblaster XFI, I won't need an interface...that I can plug my mic directly into my computer and go from there..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=980
What's your signal chain?
"OK, so with all the discussion of recording software and preamps lately, I thought we might look at the big picture: the entire signal chain. SO...Let's share. How does your voice get from your mouth to the computer screen? ..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=972
Any Rocket Scientists out there????
"I can all let you in on the mechanics of how the new system will work. By utilizing former employees of the Psychic Network, along with a Ouija board, chicken claw and a 1984 Farmers Almanac..."
- Read more and comment at
http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=922
And January´s Winner Is...
The winner for January's premium subscription raffle has been announced. Join us in congratulating the lucky talent. Remember, you can participate in the raffle by just being among the 50 talents placing the most postings on The Voice Over Savvy Forum. click here to find out more.
Friday, March 02, 2007
Alpha Milestone Reached for the New Voice123!
Hello!
We are very excited at Voice123 and Torrenegra MarketLabs, (Torrenegra MarketLabs is the development team of Voice123) because we have reached the Alpha Milestone of the New Voice123!
This means that all the major features and improvements of the New Voice123 have been coded, and we will now start to correct minor details and test everything again to reach the Beta Milestone. When we reach Beta, many of you will be able to test the system for a few weeks before it gets released live to all of our users. If you’re interested in becoming a beta tester for the New Voice123, please visit http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=987
Reaching the Alpha Milestone also means that, as promised, we are making public the list of the major improvements and new features that will be part of the New Voice123.
If you are Voice Seeker (a person looking for voices), please click here to see the video that lists the new features and improvements the New Voice123 will have for you.
If you are a Talent or Voice Producer, please click here
instead. There are many new features for you as well.
Please note that not all features all listed there. Also, please feel free to ask inThe Voice Over Savvy Forum (http://voiceoversavvy.com) whatever you want to know about the new features. We will try to answer all of your questions promptly.
Alex Torrenegra
Leader and Cofounder
We are very excited at Voice123 and Torrenegra MarketLabs, (Torrenegra MarketLabs is the development team of Voice123) because we have reached the Alpha Milestone of the New Voice123!
This means that all the major features and improvements of the New Voice123 have been coded, and we will now start to correct minor details and test everything again to reach the Beta Milestone. When we reach Beta, many of you will be able to test the system for a few weeks before it gets released live to all of our users. If you’re interested in becoming a beta tester for the New Voice123, please visit http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=987
Reaching the Alpha Milestone also means that, as promised, we are making public the list of the major improvements and new features that will be part of the New Voice123.
If you are Voice Seeker (a person looking for voices), please click here to see the video that lists the new features and improvements the New Voice123 will have for you.
If you are a Talent or Voice Producer, please click here
instead. There are many new features for you as well.
Please note that not all features all listed there. Also, please feel free to ask inThe Voice Over Savvy Forum (http://voiceoversavvy.com) whatever you want to know about the new features. We will try to answer all of your questions promptly.
Alex Torrenegra
Leader and Cofounder
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